This week, we’re dissecting one other favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration.
That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Bought Mail, a Nora Ephron movie from 1998. That is undoubtedly a millennial consolation film to THE CORE.
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Our favourite design parts:
Kathleen’s brownstone residence:
-Ornamental daisy trim across the doorways
-Hung plate assortment
Kathleen’s bookstore “The Store Round The Nook”:
Different cozy inspiration:
-Meg Ryan’s fairy hat
-Cozy outfits: cardigans, white tights with a skirt, sweaters
-’90s hair: small highlights and crisscrossed center half
What aged effectively vs. what didn’t on this film:
-Flirting on-line whereas in a relationship
Charge the film from 0 to five bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils:
Elsie – 5
Emma – 5
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Episode 174 Transcript:
Emma: You’re listening to the A Lovely Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation pay attention. This week we’re dissecting a favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration. That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Bought Mail a Nora Efron movie from 1998. That is undoubtedly a millennial consolation film to the core. I used to be so excited to rewatch this one.
Elsie: Yeah. I had such a beautiful time, we really watched it on Valentine’s Day. It’s so cozy and magical, fantastic, all of the issues. Ought to we describe it a bit, I do know there’s most likely isn’t anybody who hasn’t watched, however simply in case
Emma: Yeah, yeah. Go forward. Simply in case.
Elsie: Okay, so Joe Fox performed by Tom Hanks, he’s just about an individual who owns Barnes and Noble, who’s opening a Barnes and Noble in New York Metropolis. However they don’t name it Barnes and Noble.
Emma: They name it Fox Books.
Elsie: Kathleen Kelly performed by Meg Ryan is the proprietor of a magical, lovely little bookshop referred to as the Store Across the Nook, which can also be proper across the nook from the imposing Barnes and Noble. They’ve grow to be form of like on-line pin buddies within the earliest, most primitive doable model of the web. And so yeah, the film is named You’ve Bought Mail as a result of it’s nonetheless within the period the place the pc says you’ve received mail each time she opens her laptop. It is extremely nostalgic from a expertise standpoint, form of surprising, form of jarring, it makes the passage of time actually clear. Tom Hanks is previous, however he’s not that previous, issues have actually modified on this period of time, it’s beautiful. Past that, it’s actually a easy, cozy romantic comedy.
Emma: Yeah, that’s what I might say too. And for those who’re a guide lover, then it’s a type of films the place there’s two totally different bookstores in it and many, you realize. So I really feel like numerous instances after I learn books, clearly, authors love studying as a result of they’re writers. So there’s numerous like bookstores and libraries are likely to pop up as widespread issues, so it’s enjoyable to see them in films too, as a result of I’m a guide lover, as is Elsie, in order that’s enjoyable.
Elsie: Yeah. So now that I’m a literary particular person, I could make feedback like this. Have you ever seen that in each single guide and film, when there’s a literary feminine character, her favourite novel is all the time Delight and Prejudice. It’s all the time, all the time, all the time pleasure and prejudice each single time.
Emma: I wished to speak about that too, as a result of, I discovered it a bit humorous. Okay, so primary, I’ll say I really like Delight and Prejudice, I actually do. It’s undoubtedly in my prime 10 or no less than the highest 20 books of all time. I Love Jane Austin, usually, Delight and Prejudice might be certainly one of my favorites, so I get it, man. It’s not like I’m hating, however I additionally felt such as you personal a bookstore and your itemizing is your favourite guide, essentially the most cliche decide of all time. I simply discovered it form of unusual, as a result of they have been speaking about their favourite books and I’m like, wouldn’t you wanna decide one thing a bit bit totally different?
Elsie: Yeah, I agree as a result of I do know book-snob individuals now and so they don’t identify that as their favourite novel. So anyway, simply an attention-grabbing factor that for some cause, although it’s been about perhaps 30 years virtually since this film was made, hasn’t modified in any respect. Within the films and books, everybody nonetheless simply loves Delight and Prejudice and solely has references from that. Anyway, so let’s discuss. We’re gonna dissect the film for cozy inspiration. So final time we did twilight and twilight, I’ll say it was low on the comfortable inspiration meter. Not like zero, nevertheless it’s decrease. This one could be very, very, very excessive on the inspiration meter, I might name this film like Eye Sweet. I may get pleasure from watching it with the hold forth. Like simply stills. So for those who haven’t watched it otherwise you haven’t watched it in years, Google, You’ve Bought Mail, film stills, or You’ve Bought Mail, residence and you will notice all of the issues we’re speaking about. So I wished to first discuss Kathleen’s Brownstone residence.
So this is among the very, very Coziest film units, most iconic film units of, I might say, all romantic comedies. It’s romantic comedy gold, so I find it irresistible. So let’s simply dissect for a minute. So to begin with, it has a window seat within the entrance lounge and I simply love a window seat. I really feel like when you have a window, a giant window, a bay window, and there’s nothing there, you have been placed on this planet so as to add a window seat to that window, proper?
Emma: Yeah, you need to. And no less than as soon as sit there and skim a guide, I do know you’re most likely gonna find yourself on the sofa or in your mattress. That’s what you realize. It’s similar to the romantic concept of the place you wanna be sitting studying a guide, which is within the window seat.
Elsie: Take an image of your self studying there after which transfer to the sofa the place it’s extra comfy, that’s advantageous, we’ve proof of that. Okay, after which the opposite factor I’m obsessive about from this residence is that the trim across the doorways has these little daisies, like carved wooden, daisies, appliques, it’s similar to actually, actually good ornamental trim. Okay, so I wanna use this in my life. How in regards to the pink home it’s the one factor I don’t like in regards to the pink home is that it has a farmhouse, like fashionable farmhouse trim. They modernized it an excessive amount of and so they additionally put barn doorways. That’s the 2 issues that I might actually change. So I used to be attempting to consider a approach that I may use the inspiration of this daisy trim on these doorways. Possibly I may someway add it so I didn’t even need to take away it someway, similar to spruce it as much as make it look extra historic.
However anyway, I’ll put both an image or a word or a hyperlink, within the present notes this week so you possibly can see this daisy trim up shut as a result of it’s a crucial element. And for me, woodwork and molding, it’s certainly one of my renovation obsessions, I find it irresistible. Don’t skip over it, if you must put new trim up already, put cool trim, put particular trim. This can be a excellent instance of one thing that’s a small distinction, however far more particular.
Emma: Yeah. And customarily, I might say her residence feels a bit bit like cottage vibes, however you can also very a lot inform that it’s a New York residence and it’s speculated to be a New York residence. And in addition her boyfriend initially of the film is a author. He writes for the newspaper, I believe the Washington poster, perhaps the New York Occasions. I can’t bear in mind which one they are saying within the film, however he writes for a newspaper, so he’s a author, so that they’re each literary individuals. So I really feel prefer it simply has that vibe of their residence, he has an previous typewriter. There’s simply the sensation of, this being a contemporary New York residence, however the fashion isn’t fashionable, it’s extra cottagey and comfy.
Elsie: From my expertise, happening a New York home procuring rabbit gap, that’s true. There are many properties the place there’s tons and many unique molding, like one of the best unique molding I’ve ever seen anyplace, there are such a lot of, and that’s a quite common function. Possibly it’s as a result of that a part of the nation was constructed earlier. I don’t know why it’s so a lot better there.
Emma: I believe it’s a mixture of issues being constructed earlier. You recognize, like when you have one thing that’s 100 years previous versus 20 years previous, I really feel such as you’re extra prone to preserve the hundred-year-old factor simply because. In order that, after which I additionally surprise about some areas of the nation, and I’m not a New York native, New York Metropolis native in any respect, by no means lived there. Don’t know. So it could possibly be completely mistaken, however my impression is it is likely to be a bit bit more durable to renovate there. There are simply not as many Dwelling Depots and Lowe’s round such as you’re within the Midwest, like anybody can stroll in. It’s just a bit bit simpler to form of change issues. So I form of surprise if perhaps that’s a part of it too, issues get saved as a result of it’s simply extra cumbersome to alter out trim. So like why would you?
Elsie: Additionally, it’s an even bigger renting tradition. So it’s not a lot gutting and renovating.
Emma: Yeah, that will be my guess.
Elsie: Then yet one more factor from Kathleen’s residence was her hung plate assortment. So each Nancy Meyers or Nora Efron film has a hung plate assortment. So only a assortment of lovely vintage plates all hung in a bit assortment on a wall. I do know that it’s verifiably a grandma factor, however I additionally suppose it’s undoubtedly, you realize the fashion they name grand millennial? It’s very drawn to it and I’m very into it.
Emma: Sometime we shall be grandma, millennials, hopefully.
Elsie: Okay, after which subsequent let’s discuss Kathleen’s bookstore, the store across the nook. So it’s undoubtedly the right vintage store, all the pieces is previous. It’s like wooden trim, wooden counter, all the pieces appears prefer it’s 100 years previous. And there have been a bunch of various companies all through historical past in that house. However it’s a youngsters’s bookstore. Is it only a youngsters’s bookstore or is it a bookstore for everybody? I suppose I’m not clear on that. It is likely to be each, nevertheless it has a giant youngsters’s part, that’s a giant emphasis on what they present on digital camera.
Emma: Sure, as a result of she has story time the place she reads books to youngsters and generally there’s like youngsters within the neighborhood who appear to know her, the woman from the following door. So it undoubtedly is heavy on child stuff, however I can’t bear in mind within the film if they’ve grownup books and issues too. I really feel like Sure, however I actually can’t bear in mind now.
Elsie: I believe so too, I don’t know. The store could be very, very cute and my favourite element from it’s that there’s a scene the place they’re hanging twinkle lights and she or he is speaking about how she thinks there ought to all the time be twinkle lights and prefer it’s not simply Christmas factor, all the pieces simply wants twinkle lights, which is how I really feel. I fully agree. Simply get the twinkle lights out any time of yr, any day, any time I help it. Is there the rest about her, the store across the nook that caught out to you as cozy and cute?
Emma: Possibly I’ll carry this up now, nevertheless it’s in a bunch of units within the film or areas within the film, there have been so many checkered flooring like there have been tile checkered flooring. The bookshop’s, certainly one of ’em, Tom Hank’s character, his residence had certainly one of ’em, and there was no less than yet one more, and I can’t bear in mind now, perhaps it was within the Fox Bookstore. However I liked it. I solely have one little house in my home that has checkered flooring in my laundry room. However I simply love that look, it’s so traditional. They’d totally different ones, I really feel like one was black and white, one was like two tones of brown, form of an off-white and a darker brown, that may have been the bookstore. And I simply saved seeing it within the film and I used to be like, checkered flooring. Checkered flooring, checkered flooring.
Elsie: That’s inspiring, what number of instances do you suppose you possibly can have a checkered flooring in a single home, like three or 4? Is that too many?
Emma: I imply, how large is your own home?
Elsie: In a giant home. In a giant home? Yeah.
Emma: Yeah. Positively three or 4. Is it magnificence and the beast? Such as you received a West Wing or like what’s occurring? ,
Elsie: I dunno. No, a daily home. I’m speaking about my home. My new home.
Emma: Yeah. Your present home? Oh, your new home. Yeah, you can most likely have three or 4. I may have had extra, I considered placing it within the entryway too, however I don’t know. I actually love simply having one flooring in a lot of the home. However in areas which have water, just like the laundry room in case the washer and dryer are over flooring, it feels good to have tile in there, after which we’ve tile within the loos. However even my kitchen has wooden flooring.
Elsie: I really like wooden flooring within the kitchen.
Emma: Yeah. Reverse of you, the boring model of you, that’s me. I’m like, preserve it easy.
Elsie: That’s not true in any respect. One among my favourite moments from your complete film is when she’s doing story time and she or he’s sporting that fairy hat, like a fairytale hat. It’s simply so cute, that’s the nonetheless from the film that I believe reveals up most frequently on the web and it’s all the pieces. So yeah, like perhaps we have to get hats like that so we will similar to learn to our children and really feel like we’re in a Nora Efron film.
Emma: Actually, for those who wished to grow to be like we learn books on the library, I might completely do it with you. It will be very enjoyable.
Elsie: Okay, yeah, no I might undoubtedly love to do this, that’s enjoyable. The place are some other cozy interiors you seen? I do know we simply talked in regards to the flooring. I assumed the little espresso store the place they’d their meetup, the place she had the roses on the desk was very charming, and the grocery retailer. There was a grocery retailer too.
Emma: The grocery retailer felt very New York, I liked it. It felt very large bodega feeling in there. Yeah, and I additionally really feel prefer it’s an unassuming film in you could form of really feel like numerous the areas simply really feel brown, however once you actually look, they’re really actually fairly. You’ll be mistaken. It’s not simply all brown, there’s much more to it. However I believe for those who have been like squinting at this film, that will be the vibe. We didn’t actually discuss Tom Hanks’ character’s residence. To me, that’s the one I might need out of the 2. And I actually want there was a sequel to the film the place we see them cohabitate, I’m assuming they keep collectively.
Elsie: So what options did you want about his residence particularly?
Emma: I simply thought it felt fashionable however cool and it has that, I really feel like individuals name this fashion masculine. I don’t actually love the gendering decor, it doesn’t actually make sense to me. However the concept is I believe it has like black metallic and form of sharper edges and it tends to be a bit bit extra fashionable. And I similar to fashionable fashion, not ultra-modern, however his felt like that. There was even some form of fancy espresso machine, I really feel like that’s like out on his countertop. It simply felt like a really, I’m a enterprise particular person, however this nonetheless has fashion, which I used to be keen on. I’m a enterprise particular person, however I nonetheless have fashion.
Elsie: The wealthy dad of a Nora Efron film vibe. Yeah. I may see that being like your dream home, That is smart.
Emma: Yeah, out of the 2 residences, I liked hers too, however I used to be like, I might wanna dwell in his if I needed to dwell in one of many two. Which is humorous trigger I believe you’d dwell in hers and so then we may go to one another and it’d be nice.
Elsie: That’s true. Yeah. We might like to have our personal separate romcom homes. Okay, that is on my notes and I don’t suppose it’s gonna come into play anyplace. However I’ve two humorous issues about Joe Fox. To start with, I believe Joe Fox is a really fake-sounding film identify. Do you suppose that I simply can’t recover from the identify Joe Fox. It’s attempting so onerous to be informal that it sounds fully made as much as me.
Emma: Yeah, and for no matter cause, and there most likely is somebody on the earth named Joe Fox, however they only sound separate from one another, which to me is all the time like a, oh, that is only a identify in a guide, you realize, or no matter as a result of they don’t really feel they’re an actual particular person and so they go collectively. I don’t know why although. It doesn’t actually make sense. Possibly as a result of they’re each so quick, I don’t know. He does spend a part of the film, not saying his identify or attempting to omit it. I don’t suppose he’s actually mendacity. He’s simply form of not saying he’s his identify.
Elsie: He’s mendacity, he’s attempting to not inform her who he’s, for positive.
Emma: Yeah. He realizes she’s not gonna be proud of who he’s as a result of he realizes she owns the small bookstore and his bookstore might be gonna put her outta enterprise. So he form of is like hiding his identify so much. So perhaps that’s a part of it’s we are supposed to not know his identify for a part of the film or we all know that it’s being hidden.
Elsie: Okay, the opposite factor is, that is like my favourite second of the film quote or no matter, like a humorous quote, and Jeremy and I’ve been saying it continually as a joke, however I really feel like that is very like quintessential Nineteen Nineties in a approach that it doesn’t exist anymore. However once they’re within the espresso store collectively, he like places up his finger and orders a mocha decaf non-fat, like that’s his espresso order, it’s so loopy and like random, and likewise it doesn’t make sense. It’s such as you’re ordering a decaf non-fat frappuccino, it’s insane.
Emma: Yeah, it’s like, okay, you desire a chocolate milkshake however no fats, that’s horrible.
Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like within the olden days, it was like the start of Starbucks tradition when Starbucks and solely grand millennials or grandma, millennials can bear in mind this, however like when Starbucks was really so cool. There was a second the place it was like, I’m going to Starbucks and in You’ve Bought Mail has this as a result of in one of many opening scenes, it reveals New York Metropolis, after which it reveals a Starbucks, it’s when Starbucks was so cool, it was not widespread. It was pretentious or fancy. I believe that folks used to get pleasure from having the longest doable espresso orders.
Emma: Yeah. I believe it was a standing image in a approach, and perhaps this reveals my age cuz I used to be early twenties and tremendous broke. So the thought of ordering a $6 drink at Starbucks was like, oh no I can’t do this, I’ve no cash for that. So once you heard somebody form of get some form of grande or venti, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you’re like, wow, you should be a wealthy particular person. You’ve gotten this signature drink factor that you simply’re into, which Joe Fox is clearly wealthy due to Younger’s Barnes and Noble.
Elsie: I find it irresistible. I find it irresistible, his character’s so nice. Okay, so vogue, I believe that Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan are the icons of the Nineteen Nineties, particularly in romcoms and their outfit outfits are very cozy. She’s sporting a cardigan and a costume with a cardigan. There’s one the place she has white tights and a skirt and it’s so cute. Sweaters, it feels very fall time.
Emma: Yeah, additionally, Meg Ryan is attractive, however she additionally has that very nineties hair to me, the place it has the very small highlights after which she does her center half the place it’s like backwards and forwards, crisscross. The crisscross center half, which is simply so nineties, like very highschool to me, which I really graduated in 2004, so I suppose center college for me, no matter, you get it.
Elsie: I did the crisscross half within the nineties although, I’m not ashamed to say it.
Emma: Everybody did it. For those who weren’t doing it, it’s such as you didn’t know.
Elsie: It’s true, everybody wished to have hair like that within the nineties. However yeah, so far as their fashion, I don’t know if there’s like something they have been sporting. I believe I might put on perhaps the factor with the tights. I simply suppose it’s like a common vibe greater than an precise outfit to copy.
Emma: I additionally suppose that is an period the place Tom Hanks’, Joe Fox, fits usually are not fairly as fitted. Issues are extra dishevelled, which has really come again round. I really feel like we’re seeing numerous that now Within the final 5 years, it’s much more dishevelled garments and bagger issues, individuals aren’t doing the tremendous tight fitted as a lot. However yeah, that’s undoubtedly on this film, which is humorous as a result of some years after this, I really feel like all males’s fits have been very tailor-made. It’s not that they have been essentially tight, however they have been very like, they’d a match.
Elsie: Oh, they received tight, they received very tight in some latest many years.
Emma: Yeah, however his felt dishevelled, not fitted, not tailor-made in that approach but. Though clearly his character’s high-end, it’s not like these are low-cost fits. You don’t have that impression. It’s simply form of a special period for vogue.
Elsie: Yeah, it’s undoubtedly a special period for vogue. Yeah. Okay, so we all the time do that. What aged effectively and what didn’t age effectively within the film? I didn’t take any notes of something that made me cringe. I can’t consider something off the highest of my head, however I suppose the expertise is beautiful, it’s surprising. How totally different the early web was from what it’s now. I really wrote down a quote that somebody stated within the film and stated, I attempted to have cyber intercourse, however I saved getting the busy sign like they’re simply so primitive. It’s so early web and I believe that everybody, I used to be gonna say You’ve Bought Mail must be a film that performs in colleges as a method to train people who it wasn’t that way back, like to show children like our niece’s age, who’s 13. It wasn’t that way back that folks didn’t have web or that it was model new to them and that is the way it appeared. And that is how computer systems appeared and like they didn’t have telephones. Simply all this stuff like that I believe can be form of fascinating for youths to see.
Emma: Yeah, and I imply, the thought of assembly somebody in a chat room after which changing into form of web pen buddies to me sounds form of like, Ooh, I don’t learn about that.
Elsie: It doesn’t sound cute anymore.
Emma: Yeah, it doesn’t sound cute anymore however assembly somebody by means of a relationship app sounds actually regular to me. That is just like the model that they’d of that mainly. However anyway, yeah, so there’s that. I’ve all the time felt a bit bizarre about, I don’t know if that is an growing old factor, like did it age effectively, however no less than watching this after I was youthful and now, I don’t love that they’re form of each in relationships after which they’re form of flirting with any person else on-line. However I additionally suppose they form of handle it all through the film in several methods. I do know they actually do, like when Meg Ryan’s character has her breakup, which I really actually like that scene. I really feel prefer it’s a really grownup breakup the place each persons are very respectful and it form of showcases that breakups generally occur simply because this simply has run its course and that’s okay. And we will nonetheless respectfully half and be trustworthy with one another about it. And I really suppose it’s breakup scene. Yeah, I’ve all the time felt a bit bizarre about that, however I get it relationships are messy and I do suppose they form of handle it in locations. However yeah, I don’t know, it’s form of bizarre.
Elsie: Yeah, I might agree with that. However I actually didn’t give it a lot thought after I was watching it.
Emma: You have been similar to, present me extra interiors.
Elsie: I suppose for me, I wished to see her on the finish, I believe she’s beginning to write a guide perhaps, it’s like she’s beginning to get a brand new dream as a result of her retailer does find yourself closing and he does find yourself successful and it’s like Barnes and Noble, no matter. I believe it’s humorous how a lot the fame of Barnes and Noble has modified as effectively as a result of now I believe it’s like an endangered species to be protected and within the nineties, it was like a monster to be stopped and now there’s a special monster now. Anyway, I considered her character, I might’ve liked for her to both win or discover a resolution, discover a pivot or like some form of resolution for it, or discover a new dream that was greater and higher. That she expressed she was very obsessed with it. They form of alluded to it, nevertheless it didn’t fairly, in order that’s most likely the factor I might change for her. It may have been half too, although.
Emma: Yeah, I do suppose the sequel to this may be actually attention-grabbing and enjoyable. Yeah, however I additionally, realize it’s a remake and there isn’t one other, so it’s like, okay, that’s cool too.
Elsie: There’s not gonna be a remake.
Emma: Yeah, there’s not gonna be a sequel except apart from fan fiction.
Elsie: I cried on the finish. Did you cry a bit? Did you get a bit tear?
Emma: No, however I do like their love story. I do like the concept they’ve gotten to know each other by means of letters, and she or he mentions that Delight and Prejudice is her favourite guide, and it form of vibes that approach in that she misunderstands him and so they considerably misunderstand one another. Like, Mr. Darcy, you don’t know why he’s doing among the issues he’s doing. When she meets him on the espresso store and he has his ridiculous mochaccino order, she thinks he’s simply teasing her and antagonizing her and she or he doesn’t acknowledge that he’s the particular person she was ready for, he’s the particular person on the pc. So, that’s actually enjoyable and I believe they did a pleasant job with that and it’s satisfying.
Elsie: No, I imply it’s cute such as you need them to be collectively, they need to be, there’s no different ending for this film. So we’re gonna go into trivia time now. So that is all, really, I don’t know the place I grabbed this from, most likely I M D B or one thing. Yeah, I like love trivia about actors, films, film units, like the place was movies, like all kinds of stuff, so we’re simply gonna geek out for a bit. The casting of Dave Chappelle as Kevin Joe’s buddy and confidant happened as a result of 4 years beforehand, Chappelle was supplied the position of Bubba in Forrest Gump, which is in 1994, hank’s large blockbuster film, which got here as a worldwide phenomenon. Chappelle turned down the position of Bubba as a result of he felt Forrest Gump would flop on the field workplace, which gave me the most important miniature tear for him. That’s a tragic one. I’m positive Dave Chappelle is doing simply advantageous, however you must dwell with that. That’s most likely the humorous factor about being an actor you must decide every script by simply your individual impression and what you’ve seen earlier than it, and also you simply by no means know, proper?
Emma: Yeah. Nicely, and there could possibly be an important script after which just like the director simply takes a bizarre flip or vice versa, and the script’s form of weak, you by no means know. And Forest Gump is a bizarre film, so I may form of see studying the script and being like, I don’t know if I wanna play this position. This looks as if a extremely unusual film, I’m unsure as a result of fairly the film.
Elsie: Yeah, no, no. I believe it’s considerably not acceptable by at present’s requirements, however on the time it was Blockbuster. Okay, let’s go to the following one.
Emma: All proper, the youngsters’s bookstore scenes have been filmed at Maya Shaper’s cheese and Vintage Store. I’m unsure if I’m saying that appropriately, however there it’s and it’s at 106 West 69th Avenue. The filmmakers wished to make use of the vintage store as a result of it had a quaint, homey really feel that they have been going, and so they have been proper, and so they despatched the proprietor of the vintage store on trip for just a few weeks, and whereas she was gone, they turned it right into a youngsters’s bookshop. After the filming was completed, they put all the pieces again the best way that it was. I ponder if the shops smelled like cheese the entire time they have been filming. I’m like, cheese and vintage store.
Elsie: Okay. To start with, I don’t know if that is nonetheless a New York Metropolis institution, but when it is aware of is I might like to go to a cheese and vintage store. There may be this one place in Nashville that it’s like a present retailer, and so they have this little cheese fridge it’s like champagne and cheese and I find it irresistible each single time. It’s like form of like you may get a bit charcuterie to go, it’s so candy. Anyway, I believe that they undoubtedly discovered the right location. So whoever did the scouting, I believe they need to make miniature, Oscars for no matter awards I believe individuals ought to get.
Emma: I believe there are extra awards than we see on the present. I believe that they’ve one other for extra technical areas. So perhaps there’s one for locating the right spot.
Elsie: Yeah, like scouting areas I believe is an artwork and it’s very interesting to me. I might like to be if anybody’s scouting a location for a Nora Efron esque film, and it is advisable rent an inexperienced, highly-paid, blogger. Okay, Nora Efron organized for Meg Ryan and Heather Burns to work in actual New York Metropolis bookstores in preparation for his or her roles earlier than filming. The shop was Books of Marvel in Manhattan and the roles lasted for a couple of week. I believe that will be useful really. I all the time say that I wanna write a novel sometime. So I all the time say that certainly one of my lapses in judgment is that I’ve by no means labored in a restaurant and it’s such a giant a part of tales. I believe that having experiences like that will be, that make a lot sense. I believe working in a bookstore for every week additionally would simply be enjoyable.
Emma: Yeah, I believe so too.
Elsie: I guess they have been so excited to have Meg Ryan of their bookstore.
Emma: I ponder in the event that they put her within the again or one thing as a result of I really feel like she would most likely not get a lot executed if she was on the ground, everybody can be like, excuse me, are you, Meg Ryan? However yeah. And I additionally suppose I’m not an actor, however I might really feel like I might wanna know, even one thing easy like that, like how do you learn inventory books? I wanna study that from somebody who’s executed it. If I used to be gonna do a scene the place I used to be a librarian, I’d wanna go work with a librarian so I perceive like how are you doing this? And what’s essentially the most environment friendly approach? As a result of somebody’s gonna see this, who’s a librarian, and I would like them to really feel like they’re seen, I received it I do know what you’re doing. I do know the little tips as a result of there are all the time little issues that somebody in an business is aware of that, different individuals most likely don’t know as a result of why would you?
Elsie: Sure, I believe that’s an important concept. And figuring out like what you do between, you realize, once you’re not checking somebody out and also you’re not placing books on a shelf, what different issues are you want strolling round doing?
Emma: The subsequent one is fairly humorous. I believe the placement of Fox Books within the film is the placement of Actual life, Barnes and Noble. It’s at Broadway and 83rd Avenue on the higher West aspect. You may actually inform, yeah, that Barnes and Noble generated appreciable neighborhood opposition when it opened within the early Nineteen Nineties. So very true to the movie.
Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like in our lifetime we’ve seen such a shift in individuals’s notion as a result of I bear in mind when Barnes and Noble have been thought of like virtually boycottable due to small bookstores and all of that. Nevertheless it’s simply so totally different now. I’m simply pleased that it exists, I’m pleased I can take my children there. I additionally am glad that like 30 years sooner or later we nonetheless have small bookstores as effectively, in our cities. So it’s like we’re all nonetheless coexisting, nobody was, totally extinct, which is sweet.
Emma: Yeah, over the weekend, simply humorous sufficient, I actually went to our Barnes and Noble and certainly one of our native bookstores right here in Springfield. I took my son, Trey, and I went with Oscar to Barnes and Noble, and he picked out some books then the following day whereas Oscar’s napping, Trey stayed residence and I went to the native bookstore, Pation Bookstore, the one I took you to. I received some issues for myself, it’s a bit me time.
Elsie: I can’t wait to go to that bookstore on a regular basis. I really suppose, although, right here’s my manufacturing. Really, that is apparent, however I believe that finally Barnes and Noble gained’t exist anymore, however native bookstores will nonetheless all the time be round. I believe that native bookstores, there’ll all the time be a spot for that, proper? Hopefully Barnes and Noble will final so long as it may too.
Emma: Yeah, I actually went to each this weekend, so it’s working for me.
Elsie: Yeah, my children find it irresistible, they name it the bookstore with a stage, they just like the stage, I get it. It simply has far more character books than the native bookstore which is what they need.
Emma: Yeah. Oscar received, what did he get? He received a guide that’s formed like a automotive and it has wheels on it. He loves vehicles after which has a special automotive all through the guide. After which we additionally received Lama Lama Purple pajamas as a result of he didn’t personal that one but.
Elsie: Oh, the Lama Lama sequence and the section of parenting are among the prime, greatest reminiscences of my entire life. Everytime you’re prepared, I’ve all of the Yodo card too. Okay, so Meg Ryan received her very first laptop in the course of the filming of this film, that has received to be my favourite truth. And yeah, it actually was, this was the time. What yr did it say this film got here out? 1998, so that they have been filming it most likely in like 1997 or six. And other people have been nonetheless getting residence computer systems. We’ve to look at this with Penny, let’s strive to do this. Watch it with Penny and Bella sometime and simply see their reactions as a result of we have been in highschool or I used to be in highschool when this film got here out. To me, it’s an previous film, nevertheless it was probably not previous.
Emma: It’s fairly previous. We’re previous man.
Elsie: No, yeah, it’s previous, however I imply, I wasn’t a bit child when it got here out. Are you aware what I imply? Yeah. It’s so attention-grabbing, I just like the expertise time capsule aspect of it’s unmatched.
Emma: Okay, subsequent trivia is certainly one of Nora Efron’s signature filmmaking quirks was her use of songs to intensify plot factors. So one of many chief parts that led her movies to be termed chick flicks. When Meg Ryan and Tom Hank’s characters lastly meet in particular person each figuring out that they’ve been emailing one another, the music over the rainbow performs on the movie soundtrack and the duo shared a scene with the identical music in Sleepless in Seattle.
Elsie: That’s cute. I haven’t watched Sleepless in Seattle in latest historical past, so perhaps we’ll have to do this one over time, that’s actually candy. I believe that they’re like film couple for positive. Okay, the following one is Kathleen’s Bookstore is the store across the nook an homage to a film? The film was based mostly on 1940. I really examine that a few instances. In order that’s cute, proper? It’s named after a film.
Emma: Yeah. I’ve by no means seen the unique of You’ve Bought Mail, I haven’t seen. That is the remake and I’ve by no means seen the unique one.
Elsie: They’re saying the film was referred to as The Shopper on the Nook, not You’ve Bought Mail.
Emma: Yeah, so isn’t You’ve Bought Mail a remake of one other film I believe it’s referred to as Store Across the Nook and the expertise’s totally different. The opposite one is letter writing however this one is just like the web, very totally different expertise, nevertheless it’s like the identical film.
Elsie: Oh, okay, nevermind. I simply discovered one thing new. That’s superior. Then we must always watch that, that’s cool. I assumed it was simply the identify, that’s so attention-grabbing. I don’t watch numerous films earlier than the fifties and I wish to, I might need to, and even like films from just like the 20s, 30s, and forties, it’s fairly uncommon to search out them streaming and likewise to search out them being really helpful or know what they’re about. They don’t have trailers so you possibly can’t verify them mountain that approach. So yeah, if anybody has form of a primer for previous films earlier than 1950, the place it’s like prime three, one thing like that, that’s manageable. I might love to listen to it as a result of I believe that’s one thing I’d wish to get into, however I’ve not watched hardly any, principally simply horror.
Emma: Yeah, I used to be gonna say, I really feel like you have to have seen some previous horror. I do know you guys have seen the seventies, however there’s gotta be some previous ones, you realize, Hitchcock-era stuff. Ought to we give this a score?
Elsie: So the score is from zero to 5 bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils. I simply suppose there’s no approach it’s getting a 5. Really, I wanna provide you with mine. I would like mine to be, mine is 5 Mochaccinos decaf, non-fat. Yeah, I liked it. I believe I’ve watched it really twice within the final two years, which I believe is a bit an excessive amount of, however as soon as each three to 4 years I believe is an efficient quantity. For those who haven’t watched it in 5 years, watch it like instantly. It’s fully fantastic and iconic and I don’t know, I really feel prefer it’s a fall film and a spring film too, in order that’s onerous to say cuz it has each.
Emma: Yeah, it has all seasons, and Yeah. And perhaps we talked about this in one of many different rewatch episodes, I can’t bear in mind, however I really feel like they’re not making as many romcoms which might be large as in theaters. I believe they’re extra like Netflix has its personal, or HBO Max has its personal which continues to be cool and I nonetheless like watching these, however I really feel like there usually are not as many romcoms have been like all people revisits these. I believe it’s actually enjoyable to see what was the factor that was within the film theaters and all people went with their mother.
Elsie: Do you suppose there was a Romcom period?
Emma: Yeah. I really feel like now it’s like, issues which might be in film theaters are usually extra, it seems like motion and like family-friendly issues. Which is cool, I like each of these. However I really feel like I don’t see as many romcoms which might be like all people noticed within the theaters, not that everybody even goes to the theaters anymore. I form of missed that period, I like revisiting all these.
Elsie: Yeah, we’ll preserve doing romcoms, we’ll dig for the gold as a result of there are such a lot of and I really feel like we’ll most likely do consolation re-watches for no less than a few years as a result of there are such a lot of films on our listing. We’re not gonna get to them shortly.
Emma: Oh yeah, individuals e-mail us new ones each week.
Elsie: So it’s true, I really like these emails. Okay, it’s time for everybody’s favourite a part of our present, A joker, a truth with Nova, and I believe this week we’ve a joke.
Nova: This week the joke is, what’s Santa when he stops?
Elsie: What’s he?
Nova: Santa Pause. Get it, he pauses for a second.
Elsie: That’s actually good, I like that one. You wanna say bye.
Nova: See you quickly and have an important day.
Elsie: When you have a consolation re-watch request, we might love to listen to it. Our entire listing is only a request. So e-mail us anytime at podcast@ lovely mess.com. And yeah, we’ll be again subsequent week with our spring bucket listing episode.